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Re: It's Videogames

Post by pterrus » Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:51 pm

Metric is the default, right? I don't think I ever bothered to change it. They got me.

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Re: It's Videogames

Post by Doug » Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:13 pm

If I remember correctly, it does start off in metric unless you change it
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Re: It's Videogames

Post by Blissful » Fri Mar 03, 2023 4:25 pm

Doug wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 4:11 pmBasically, during the attract screen, computer Banjo was all "Fuck you this is mine, fuck you this is mine too, hey fuck you this is also mine," erasing the notes from your saved game forever
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Re: It's Videogames

Post by Blissful » Fri Mar 03, 2023 4:26 pm

Doug wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:12 pmI just realized, it's a plan to make us learn metric
we have science degrees at home
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Re: It's Videogames

Post by Doug » Fri Mar 03, 2023 6:19 pm

Blissful wrote: Fri Mar 03, 2023 4:26 pm
Doug wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:12 pmI just realized, it's a plan to make us learn metric
we have science degrees at home
You know the score, pal. If you're not scientist, you're little people
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Post by seathesee » Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:47 pm

ive been replaying elden ring because, well i felt like it and i hadnt played the ps5 version before so i had an excuse to start over.

im not great at the game, but am...servicable? anyways, i was really impressed on this play through how smooth the difficulty curve is when you arent dying all the time and losing your runes. ive basically been cruising through the game, beating bosses first try i found ridiculously difficult in the past, and only having to repeat bosses im having trouble with a few times. i finally hit a wall at maliketh, though. godskin duo went down first try, relatively easily, so i thought i was leveled properly for the area. im not sure i can beat maliketh at lvl 10X at my skill level. i think he marks "the difficulty spike." maybe ive not been exploring enough because i felt i was in the home stretch.
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Post by Doug » Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:14 pm

He's quite the monster. The way he moves is so well done, it's like you just want to watch him

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You probably know this but in case you don't, there is an item that specifically parries his attack where his sword flashes gold for a second. This parry severely stuns him
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Re: It's Videogames

Post by Doug » Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:16 pm

It's funny what's hard in the game and what isn't. "Radhan is so hard!" Literally first try. "Dragon knight isn't even a boss, he's just a miniboss!" Took me like 30 tries
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Post by Doug » Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:22 pm

Oh, that reminds me, I wanted to ask you guys this.

Scenario One:
You play Elden Ring. You get to some boss. Let's say it's Horah Loux. It takes you (me) 30 tries to beat him. Each try takes like 5 full minutes, because he has two phases. That's two and a half hours! Each attempt you are killed, you run back, you fight him again. You finally beat him after two and a half hours. That was hard, right

Scenario Two:
You play Snowrunner. You decide, hey I'm going to do Amur's regional objectives. The objective involves restoring an entire rocket base, the power facility (elsewhere) that powers it, bringing the trailer for the rocket out of grueling wilderness. transporting the rocket across two maps, so on and so forth. If you mess up and roll a truck, you can either teleport back to base with it and try again -or- you can bring up another truck to right the first one. You don't die in this game, and you almost never truly have to do something again. Anyway, epic mission series, you beat Amur. Let's say it takes you 30 hours. That was hard, right



Which thing is ~difficulty~ and which isn't. Is difficulty trying for two and a half hours to kill this one insane boss, who kills you over and over until you finally succeed after 30 tries? Is difficulty a 30-hour mission series with no real chance of failure, but you did have to figure out how you were going to do it along the way? Which one is "harder"

Are neither of them "difficult" if you victory was inevitable either way
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Re: It's Videogames

Post by seathesee » Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:38 pm

Doug wrote: Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:16 pm "Dragon knight isn't even a boss, he's just a miniboss!" Took me like 30 tries
ive found dragon knight when i can ride my horse is just a difficult mob. dragon knight when i cannot ride my horse is basically impossible and i will run by it every time i can.

horse really makes a lot of the "difficult" bosses pretty easy. i never got any of the complaints about fire giant.
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Re: It's Videogames

Post by Doug » Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:40 pm

seathesee wrote: Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:38 pm
Doug wrote: Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:16 pm "Dragon knight isn't even a boss, he's just a miniboss!" Took me like 30 tries
ive found dragon knight when i can ride my horse is just a difficult mob. dragon knight when i cannot ride my horse is basically impossible and i will run by it every time i can.

horse really makes a lot of the "difficult" bosses pretty easy. i never got any of the complaints about fire giant.
Yeah I saw a streamer taking like 40 tries to kill Radhan. He was not on his horse. This one seems especially egregious, because I swear it seems to me that Radhan is on a horse deliberately so that you know you should also be on a horse
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Re: It's Videogames

Post by Rylinks » Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:09 am

the hardest boss for me was the demi-human chiefs because i tried to fight them very early as deprived

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Post by Ashenai » Sat Mar 04, 2023 7:21 am

Doug wrote: Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:22 pm Oh, that reminds me, I wanted to ask you guys this.

Scenario One:
You play Elden Ring. You get to some boss. Let's say it's Horah Loux. It takes you (me) 30 tries to beat him. Each try takes like 5 full minutes, because he has two phases. That's two and a half hours! Each attempt you are killed, you run back, you fight him again. You finally beat him after two and a half hours. That was hard, right

Scenario Two:
You play Snowrunner. You decide, hey I'm going to do Amur's regional objectives. The objective involves restoring an entire rocket base, the power facility (elsewhere) that powers it, bringing the trailer for the rocket out of grueling wilderness. transporting the rocket across two maps, so on and so forth. If you mess up and roll a truck, you can either teleport back to base with it and try again -or- you can bring up another truck to right the first one. You don't die in this game, and you almost never truly have to do something again. Anyway, epic mission series, you beat Amur. Let's say it takes you 30 hours. That was hard, right



Which thing is ~difficulty~ and which isn't. Is difficulty trying for two and a half hours to kill this one insane boss, who kills you over and over until you finally succeed after 30 tries? Is difficulty a 30-hour mission series with no real chance of failure, but you did have to figure out how you were going to do it along the way? Which one is "harder"

Are neither of them "difficult" if you victory was inevitable either way
To me, difficulty is overcoming frustration with effort. Both those experiences sound difficult!

I try to play games on Ironman whenever possible, because I enjoy high stakes, the risk of failure makes the game more exciting for me. But difficulty doesn't require that risk. Solving a jigsaw puzzle can be difficult, even though there's no way to fail it and every valid move is forward progress.

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Post by Ashenai » Thu Mar 16, 2023 4:05 am


what the hell did they do to minecraft

i can't tell if I'm impressed or horrified

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Post by Blissful » Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:28 pm

looks rancid lol

mods are great and all but i guess you do actually have to have a basic understanding of what is and isn't worth playing
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Post by Ashenai » Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:20 pm

supposedly it's mega popular, somehow

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Post by haplo » Thu Mar 16, 2023 7:46 pm

I like having crazy stuff to look forward to even if I never got it. I quit Terraria Calamity before finishing, for some games it's nice to quit because you got your fill of it instead of quitting because you ran out of stuff to do.

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Post by Khaos » Thu Mar 16, 2023 7:52 pm

when i quit because i ran out of stuff to do the game lives very fondly in my memory

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Post by Ashenai » Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:40 am


wtf this looks sweet as hell? It's one of those single-person passion projects by a crazy driven dev, and it looks like it might just end up amazing, as those sometimes do!

(still in early access, but looks like there's already a lot to love imo)

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Post by Blissful » Mon Mar 20, 2023 11:33 am

Ashenai wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:40 am

wtf this looks sweet as hell? It's one of those single-person passion projects by a crazy driven dev, and it looks like it might just end up amazing, as those sometimes do!

(still in early access, but looks like there's already a lot to love imo)
this seems WAY too high fidelity to not be wasting a shitload of (solo!) devtime on graphical stuff, but at least if there's a genre that calls for graphical fidelity it's maybe space games
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Post by Blissful » Mon Mar 20, 2023 11:33 am

it's very impressive whats been done here but i still regard this title as firmly in the danger zone
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Post by haplo » Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:48 pm

feels kind of like Kenshi in space

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Post by Crunchums » Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:57 am

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Post by Skeletor » Fri Mar 24, 2023 2:15 am

ask chatgpt instead of most of that cycle
wow, [you]. that all sounds terrible. i hope it gets better for you

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Post by Skeletor » Fri Mar 24, 2023 2:15 am

it rings very true though. very true
wow, [you]. that all sounds terrible. i hope it gets better for you

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Post by mindwarped » Fri Mar 24, 2023 11:09 pm

a series of interlocking rings, all ringing true

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Post by Doug » Thu Mar 30, 2023 1:15 pm

Playing FFX

Again

22-year-old game. For the first time in 22 years, I got the Jecht Shot lol
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Post by KingRamz » Thu Mar 30, 2023 3:25 pm

Doug wrote:Playing FFX

Again

22-year-old game. For the first time in 22 years, I got the Jecht Shot lol
It's so fucking good. I was so pissed in the story tournament when they made me swap out Tidus for Wakka

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Re: It's Videogames

Post by Doug » Thu Mar 30, 2023 3:31 pm

KingRamz wrote: Thu Mar 30, 2023 3:25 pm
Doug wrote:Playing FFX

Again

22-year-old game. For the first time in 22 years, I got the Jecht Shot lol
It's so fucking good. I was so pissed in the story tournament when they made me swap out Tidus for Wakka
lol yeah

Should I have bothered to do the first match over and over until I won it? I didn't bother
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Post by KingRamz » Thu Mar 30, 2023 7:56 pm

Doug wrote:
KingRamz wrote: Thu Mar 30, 2023 3:25 pm
Doug wrote:Playing FFX

Again

22-year-old game. For the first time in 22 years, I got the Jecht Shot lol
It's so fucking good. I was so pissed in the story tournament when they made me swap out Tidus for Wakka
lol yeah

Should I have bothered to do the first match over and over until I won it? I didn't bother
Probably not. If you win you get a Strength Sphere and a slight cosmetic change to a cutscene.

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