Google makes everything worse

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Re: Google makes everything worse

Post by Skeletor » Fri Nov 04, 2022 9:06 pm

Crunchums wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 9:03 pm i'm hoping that he actually ends up improving twitter (both for users and business-wise) mostly because of how funny it would be
it would be kinda bad for software developers, i think, if more rich people decide that they can make more money by being more ruthless, and stop pampering software developers. but it would be funny enough that i'm willing to take the hit
wow, [you]. that all sounds terrible. i hope it gets better for you

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Post by Dantes » Fri Nov 04, 2022 9:11 pm

Crunchums wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 9:03 pm i'm hoping that he actually ends up improving twitter (both for users and business-wise) mostly because of how funny it would be
It's pretty clear that the people who were running twitter had no idea how to do that.
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Post by Luna » Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:54 am

haplo wrote:justin beaver is going to make a killing on new twitter
justin beaver?

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Post by Dantes » Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:17 am

Luna wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:54 am
haplo wrote:justin beaver is going to make a killing on new twitter
justin beaver?
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Post by Blissful » Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:51 am

Elon: I will be Universally beloved, since it is so easy to please everyone on twitter
Jason: It feels like everyone wants the same exact thing, and they will be patient and understanding of any changes ... Twitter Stans are a reasonable, good faith bunch
an ironic sense of humor seems alive and well
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Post by haplo » Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:58 am

So Twitch recently banned gambling sites which is probably good overall but I think most would agree the reason was purely to spite a few specific people.

Despite the rule change, there are still gambling streams on Twitch. In fact, this particular stream has been the most-viewed Slots stream on Twitch ever since the ban went into place
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Yes, this is indeed an incredibly obvious bot account that has been live for over 8 hours. Twitch seems to ban them about once a day, and then they make a new account and repeat for a whole extra day uninterrupted. You'd think a site so intent on virtue signaling would put in a little more effort to stop scam accounts.

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Post by haplo » Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:01 am

maybe Elon bought Twitch and laid off all their moderation team and we just haven't gotten the news yet

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Post by Crunchums » Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:03 am

💦👄 COME PLAY WITH ME ;) 👄💦
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Post by haplo » Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:06 am

I don't even mean for that to be like a "stupid twitch and their woke policies" thing, the software engineer in me just can't believe that a company with like 5000 employees can't write an algorithm to solve this problem. The account names are all like Joanne_Brown, Melissa_Frown, etc. It's so incredibly pattern based it's more surprising that they haven't solved it. They use the same exact looped video feed with the same exact botted viewers with the same exact messages being spammed.

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Post by Magical » Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:20 am

haplo wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:58 am the reason was purely to spite a few specific people.
If someone's bragging they made $300mil from casinos by being an "anti-gambling gambler" they can fuck right off.

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Re: Google makes everything worse

Post by Luna » Tue Nov 08, 2022 9:27 pm

something weird is happening with twitter japan

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Post by Doug » Tue Nov 08, 2022 9:37 pm

Fuckin' incredible

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Post by Crunchums » Tue Nov 08, 2022 9:39 pm

"she is getting ratiod now." lol
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Post by Ashenai » Tue Nov 08, 2022 9:40 pm

That is kinda cool. It would be nice to have trending topics be whatever people are actually interested in instead of the latest dumb shit most people don't care about

I don't fully trust that Elon will let this happen instead of substituting his own dumb shit preferences. But maybe!

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Post by Luna » Tue Nov 08, 2022 9:43 pm

Ashenai wrote:I don't fully trust that Elon will let this happen instead of substituting his own dumb shit preferences
like ads for tesla? does anyone even know if elon is on bad guy team and not good guy team? but i guess saying free speech or even pretending to support that automatically makes him a nazi, huh

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Post by Ashenai » Tue Nov 08, 2022 9:46 pm

Well he banned a bunch of people making fun of him, even the ones that clearly indicated they were parody accounts. See the latest Matt Levine quote in the matt levine thread

Maybe that was the bad kind of free speech though? I'm not an expert

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Re: Google makes everything worse

Post by haplo » Tue Nov 08, 2022 9:46 pm

The important thing to remember is that Twitter was already terrible before Elon took it over

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Post by Luna » Tue Nov 08, 2022 9:54 pm

Ashenai wrote:Well he banned a bunch of people making fun of him, even the ones that clearly indicated they were parody accounts. See the latest Matt Levine quote in the matt levine thread

Maybe that was the bad kind of free speech though? I'm not an expert
http://web.archive.org/web/202103031137 ... unt-policy

this is a funny one because he was a nazi because he was fucking with the blue checkmarks, which would lead to impersonation and stuff. chaos! so, ok, if you impersonate people then you get suspended, which was already in the rules. but then that makes him a nazi, because

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Post by Dantes » Tue Nov 08, 2022 9:54 pm

Ashenai wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 9:40 pm That is kinda cool. It would be nice to have trending topics be whatever people are actually interested in instead of the latest dumb shit most people don't care about

I don't fully trust that Elon will let this happen instead of substituting his own dumb shit preferences. But maybe!
There is still plenty of reason to doubt an unsourced claim about trends on JTwitter, but if, if, that is actually true, the proper response here should be endless rage directed at the Twitter employees engaging in and blatantly lying about incredibly unethical mass social manipulation.

I'm not certain that represents an actual crime, but people should lose careers over that kind of shit.
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Post by Ashenai » Tue Nov 08, 2022 9:57 pm

Luna wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 9:54 pm
Ashenai wrote:Well he banned a bunch of people making fun of him, even the ones that clearly indicated they were parody accounts. See the latest Matt Levine quote in the matt levine thread

Maybe that was the bad kind of free speech though? I'm not an expert
http://web.archive.org/web/202103031137 ... unt-policy

this is a funny one because he was a nazi because he was fucking with the blue checkmarks, which would lead to impersonation and stuff. chaos! so, ok, if you impersonate people then you get suspended, which was already in the rules. but then that makes him a nazi, because
I just said he banned people even when they clearly labelled themselves as parody accounts. As in having THIS IS A PARODY ACCOUNT on their account page, in big letters.

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Post by haplo » Tue Nov 08, 2022 9:57 pm

I'm 100% sure that employees were selling blue checkmarks back when they were exclusive so it wouldn't surprise me at all if people were tweaking things like trending topics.

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Post by Luna » Tue Nov 08, 2022 9:59 pm

Ashenai wrote:
I just said he banned people even when they clearly labelled themselves as parody accounts. As in having THIS IS A PARODY ACCOUNT on their account page, in big letters.
the accounts that i've seen got banned been banned changed their names to things like elonmusk. you can't do that. it is against the rules. it doesnt matter what you put in your bio that's only half of following the rules.

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Post by Ashenai » Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:01 pm

Luna wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 9:59 pm
Ashenai wrote:
I just said he banned people even when they clearly labelled themselves as parody accounts. As in having THIS IS A PARODY ACCOUNT on their account page, in big letters.
the accounts that i've seen got banned been banned changed their names to things like elonmusk. you can't do that. it is against the rules. it doesnt matter what you put in your bio that's only half of following the rules.
Hm.

Alright, I can buy that. That seems kinda fair actually.

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Post by Luna » Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:01 pm

Luna wrote: like ads for tesla? does anyone even know if elon is on bad guy team and not good guy team? but i guess saying free speech or even pretending to support that automatically makes him a nazi, huh
this wasn't meant to be accusatory or anything, like you were calling him a nazi. maybe the intent got across, but you know.

obv elon is going to get in trouble for fucking with the left's ability to carefully provide context, and so by extension elon's policies would all be bad team also or whatever, but i'm struggling to imagine what a tech guy in california's alt right personal policies might be. but like maybe the guy really did vote for trump or vote's for the bad guys in every election i dont actually know

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Post by Dantes » Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:09 pm

haplo wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 9:57 pm I'm 100% sure that employees were selling blue checkmarks back when they were exclusive so it wouldn't surprise me at all if people were tweaking things like trending topics.
I would want some sort of actual evidence before I got my pitchfork and rampage on, but I have absolutely no trouble believing a story like that. In my experience their are two defining traits of progressives 1) they know better than you 2) they are very comfortable acting on that knowledge. As you might expect, I find progressives to be very contemptible.
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Post by Ashenai » Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:13 pm

Luna wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:01 pm
Luna wrote: like ads for tesla? does anyone even know if elon is on bad guy team and not good guy team? but i guess saying free speech or even pretending to support that automatically makes him a nazi, huh
this wasn't meant to be accusatory or anything, like you were calling him a nazi. maybe the intent got across, but you know.

obv elon is going to get in trouble for fucking with the left's ability to carefully provide context, and so by extension elon's policies would all be bad team also or whatever, but i'm struggling to imagine what a tech guy in california's alt right personal policies might be. but like maybe the guy really did vote for trump or vote's for the bad guys in every election i dont actually know
I think twitter was pretty horrible before. (And honestly I just assumed they were manipulating the trending topics, that just seemed like an obvious thing they would do.)

I don't use twitter much, but I'd like to see it get better. Maybe it will get better with Elon! I think there are a lot of serious obstacles to this that I'm not confident he knows how to fix (even if his motives are pure).

I dunno, I'm wary. The news about the trending topics becoming unbiased is promising though, I like that!

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Re: Google makes everything worse

Post by Skeletor » Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:19 pm

Luna wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 9:27 pm something weird is happening with twitter japan
i don't trust any of this at all but it would be hilarious if it just happened they happened to fire whoever's full time job it is to make twitter terrible
wow, [you]. that all sounds terrible. i hope it gets better for you

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Post by Magical » Wed Nov 09, 2022 12:49 am

Luna wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 9:27 pm something weird is happening with twitter japan
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I don't believe that was the actual translation provided by Google, and it's dodgy to write your own translation and then pass it off as machine translated to act like it's unbiased.

(The actual translation given seems pretty fair and correct to me, though)

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Post by Magical » Wed Nov 09, 2022 12:53 am

Damn, I just tried it in google translate and it actually is. That's pretty baller.

EDIT: The reason I thought it was fake was because the translation does things I didn't expect of a machine like ignore words to boil down to overall meaning, and cope with what is either weird grammar I've not seen before or just a typo.

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