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Khaos Cube Draft preparation/discussion thread

Post by Ashenai » Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:40 pm

Khaos has made a lot of very awesome fantasy cards! So let's play a cube draft with them!

Here are the three things we need:

1) The cube. Khaos has said he's willing to curate a cube out of his card designs! Awesome! This is a ton of work, though, and what would be helpful is to scrape the Fantasy Card threads (here and on GG) for Khaos's posts and maybe squeeze them into a machine-readable format compatible with our environment (see item 2). My scripting skills are the scripting skills of a tiny, innocent baby, so ideally someone else would be able to do this? Do we have any powerful python mages?

2) The environment. We need software for doing a cube draft with custom cards, and software for playing the games. Anyone know what people use for these things?

3) The people. We actually need people to play! I propose cross-pollinating with GG, because I'm not sure we can get 8 people here (although cube draft can work with fewer), and also they do this sort of stuff a lot.

Let's talk about how we can get any or all of these three things!

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Re: Khaos Cube Draft preparation/discussion thread

Post by Juri » Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:51 pm

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Re: Khaos Cube Draft preparation/discussion thread

Post by Juri » Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:51 pm

if khaos makes all the damn cards i guess i owe it to him to make card pictures or a tts module or whatever

i dont know how to make
-xml setfile for cockatrice
-dr4ft.info fork w/ his set on

i do know how to make
-card images
-tabletop simulator module
-online listing of cube contents a la cubecobra/cubetutor/etc
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Re: Khaos Cube Draft preparation/discussion thread

Post by Khaos » Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:03 pm

how difficult is it to make a tts module? pretty easy right? lots of people don't have tts though, so i'd rather do a cockatrice thing

for card images i wonder if there's an easy way just to pull existing magic card art automatically, without having to actually, you know, mess with photoshop

i think the easier we make this on ourselves the more likely it actually happens

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Re: Khaos Cube Draft preparation/discussion thread

Post by Khaos » Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:05 pm

making it in cockatrice seems easy. i'll make all the cards in excel, then have a seperate sheet that automatically converts it to the proper syntax

https://github.com/Cockatrice/Cockatric ... rds-&-Sets

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Re: Khaos Cube Draft preparation/discussion thread

Post by Juri » Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:08 pm

Khaos wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:03 pmi'd rather do a cockatrice thing
i would rather do this also
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Post by Khaos » Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:27 pm

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

seems simple enough. i might be able to just copy and paste cards from gg directly into this sheet

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Post by Juri » Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:59 pm

New look for you Ashenai!

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Edit this into all your posts in this ITT thread thanks in tia
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Post by Ashenai » Fri Feb 26, 2021 7:08 pm

extremely yes

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Post by Juri » Fri Feb 26, 2021 7:16 pm

Now THAT's what I call Khaosvantage!
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Re: Khaos Cube Draft preparation/discussion thread

Post by Khaos » Fri Feb 26, 2021 8:03 pm

sheet's coming along nicely. now we just need someone who can scrap the threads for my posts, and i guess delete anything in [q.uote] tags. after that i can manually format them to fit my sheet

i should probably finish this proposal that's due in an hour though

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Re: Khaos Cube Draft preparation/discussion thread

Post by Khaos » Sat Feb 27, 2021 3:48 am

so when i do a search on gg for khaos posts with fantasy it comes up with 3454 results

send he;p

and i just realize the cockatrice artwork function probably expects a picture of the ENTIRE card, not just the artwork. i was kinda expecting it to automatically MSE the rest of the card but I think we would have to use literally MSE. which sounds again like too much work. and that's the tea

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Post by Juri » Sat Feb 27, 2021 4:27 am

i can probably figure out card pictures somehow if presented with a bunch of card text
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Post by Juri » Sat Feb 27, 2021 4:30 am

got a way to make the sheet public?
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Post by Khaos » Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:37 am

Juri wrote:i can probably figure out card pictures somehow if presented with a bunch of card text
if that's the case the missing link is just getting the text from the thread so i can sort/curate them

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Post by Juri » Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:44 am

the one thing i dont know is what the hell to do for art when it comes to card pictures

sourcing actual pics seems like mad effort

dunno what sort of placeholder thing would be appropriate to put there instead

i can always leave it blank if we want
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Post by Khaos » Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:47 am

if there was a way to take existing card art and shove it in (easily) then i could add a new field for the magic card art i want to use per card. if not blank/my avatar would be fine

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Post by Juri » Sat Feb 27, 2021 6:05 am

lol i should put existing card art through the same neural filter i used for ashenai

this is creating a pile of extra work for myself but its also really funny
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Post by Khaos » Sat Feb 27, 2021 6:10 am

that sounds amazing but 360 cards is a lot of cards

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Post by Juri » Sat Feb 27, 2021 7:42 am

yeah

i'd be willing to do the existing magic card art thing with the av as a fallback
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Re: Khaos Cube Draft preparation/discussion thread

Post by Ashenai » Sat Feb 27, 2021 10:35 am

Is there a way to do the actual drafting in cockatrice too, or do we need another app for that? And if it's the latter, is there one that uses the same format for cards as cockatrice does, so we don't have to convert anything?

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Post by Juri » Sat Feb 27, 2021 11:42 am

Ashenai wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 10:35 am Is there a way to do the actual drafting in cockatrice too, or do we need another app for that? And if it's the latter, is there one that uses the same format for cards as cockatrice does, so we don't have to convert anything?
oh i checked and it looks like dr4ft.info actually lets you just upload custom set xmls to their website, so that's cool. i might need to make an imgur album of card images for the xml file to refer to or something i guess
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Post by Juri » Sat Feb 27, 2021 1:10 pm

That platform does let you export decks in a format that's directly cockatrice-readable
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Re: Khaos Cube Draft preparation/discussion thread

Post by Ashenai » Sat Feb 27, 2021 1:31 pm

Ok, so drafting in dr4ft.info and playing in cockatrice, sweet. We've gotten no offers from mighty scriptlords so maybe I'll see if I can write a simple spider and have it do something helpful. No promises, I'm a novice at this!

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Post by Ashenai » Sat Feb 27, 2021 3:12 pm

progress report: accidentally doing a kaldheim draft instead

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Post by Juri » Sat Feb 27, 2021 3:37 pm

Ashenai wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 3:12 pm progress report: accidentally doing a kaldheim draft instead
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Re: Khaos Cube Draft preparation/discussion thread

Post by Khaos » Sat Feb 27, 2021 4:05 pm

Ashenai wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 3:12 pm progress report: accidentally doing a kaldheim draft instead
i asked on gg but nothing yet. i think im almost done with my xml spreadhsheet. ill try making a two card set with it and see if it works.

juri you want to make a boobiel card in the easiest way possible so can link it?

im thinking angel of glory's rise

if i add a column with suggested original magic art will that help?

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Re: Khaos Cube Draft preparation/discussion thread

Post by Khaos » Sat Feb 27, 2021 4:06 pm

to avoid cropping the images your template could just have the full original card art on a layer underneath the new card layer. but im guessing you know this or have an even easier way of doing it

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Re: Khaos Cube Draft preparation/discussion thread

Post by Juri » Sat Feb 27, 2021 4:27 pm

Khaos wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 4:05 pmjuri you want to make a boobiel card in the easiest way possible so can link it?
I don't know what this means
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